I’m all for people bursting bubbles but I think some of the ones you’re trying to burst (e.g. calorie counting) are ones that work for many people, I can show you many, many Amazing Losers who are living proof of it. So until you’re prepared to outline the method that is in every way better than this then people will always get a bit het up.
I’m proud that MVF is a diet agnostic place. If you find a method and it leads you to a healthier place then go for it. For example a doctor would balk at @CatManDo’s methods, but you know what - it works for him and he stands by it and I think we all have to support each other in this. Plenty of paths lead to a healthier you!